Disastrous experiment with Bugzilla

I don’t have much love for Bugzilla.
It got bitter just now when I tried this search on Google. I just looked for references of the word bpmn on bugs.eclipse.org, and the page returns no results.

In the same category, did you know the feeds created with Bugzilla aren’t working with Feedburner or Y!Pipes ? Google Reader has apparently implemented a hack to turn around the issue.

Back in 2001 (?), Bugzilla was a nice choice. Is it still the case ? Can we put up with a silo at one of the most critical places of our system ?

Is the EMO still looking for places to accelerate Eclipse ecosystem growth ? Look no further!

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9 Responses to “Disastrous experiment with Bugzilla”

  1. Gunnar says:

    Not sure where the problem is. The Bugzilla feeds work fine. The problem you mentioned is actually not a Bugzilla problem but one with a security certificate on dev.eclipse.org. But that’s a totally different thing.

  2. Interesting. So maybe this is an Eclipse problem ? Can we fix that ?

  3. Denis Roy says:

    I intentionally prevent search engines from indexing Bugzilla. Bugzilla performance is very important, and having 3-4 spiders constantly hitting it is simply too much. If you’re going to do a search site:bugs.eclipse.org why not go straight to the source?

  4. Denis, today it is too hard and too slow to do searches on Bugzilla. It is good for some searches, but indexing the data is very important. Plus, if you don’t know first hand what you are looking for, you will get in trouble quite easily.

    If you index with google, I bet you will get _less_ stress on Bugzilla as people will rely on google to search.

  5. Ed Merks says:

    It might be a stupid idea, but I wonder if there are slow periods for bugzilla when allowing it to be crawled and indexed might not be noticed… Or perhaps it could be indexed locally…

  6. Denis Roy says:

    Antoine, game on. I’m willing to bet with you. What are the stakes? Hint: I used to allow external indexing before, and have since disabled it.

    There is a bug open for this in Community/Bugzilla. Feel free to comment there.

  7. Hey Denis, how about a beer ? I will be probably attending at EclipseCon, so that would leave enough time to build stats.

    I found the bug reference, here it is:
    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214067

    Denis, how does Mozilla deal with this on their own Bugzilla ?

  8. Bob Swift says:

    I don’t go to Eclipse bugzilla very often, but, performance is horrible - minutes to create an issue. Gave up trying to see if issue already reported. Regarding comments about Google, please make it searchable there!!! I don’t know how developers put up with it.

  9. Hi Bob, well now you know… I am a committer and I can’t put up with it myself.

    I’ll follow up on this, stay tuned.

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